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Current biber version is incompatible with biblatex

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Package: guix;

Reported by: Mikhail Tsykalov <tsymsh <at> gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 11:24:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>

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From: Mikhail Tsykalov <tsymsh <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-guix <at> gnu.org
Subject: Current biber version is incompatible with biblatex
Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 14:23:38 +0300

When running biber the following error appears:

ERROR - Error: Found biblatex control file version 3.5, expected version 
3.4.
This means that your biber (2.11) and biblatex (3.12) versions are 
incompatible.
See compat matrix in biblatex or biber PDF documentation.
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From: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
To: Mikhail Tsykalov <tsymsh <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 41400 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41400: Current biber version is incompatible with biblatex
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 17:38:31 +0200

Hi,

Mikhail Tsykalov <tsymsh <at> gmail.com> skribis:

> When running biber the following error appears:
>
> ERROR - Error: Found biblatex control file version 3.5, expected
> version 3.4.
> This means that your biber (2.11) and biblatex (3.12) versions are
> incompatible.
> See compat matrix in biblatex or biber PDF documentation.

Not long ago, I did this:

  commit 40fd909e3ddee2c46a27a4fe92ed49d3e7ffb413
  Author: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
  Date:   Fri Apr 24 16:17:38 2020 +0200

      gnu: biber: Downgrade to 2.11.

      Biber 2.12 is incompatible with biblatex 3.11, which is what's currently
      packaged.  This is a followup to 41a010875ba4108e666f11fc111cf5bb5dcf5464.

      * gnu/packages/tex.scm (biber): Downgrade to 2.11.

However, it seems that biblatex has been updated in the meantime.

Could you check whether reverting the commit above fixes the problem for
you?

Thanks,
Ludo’.
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From: Julien Lepiller <julien <at> lepiller.eu>
To: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>,
 Mikhail Tsykalov <tsymsh <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 41400 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41400: Current biber version is incompatible with biblatex
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 12:07:02 -0400

Le 29 mai 2020 11:38:31 GMT-04:00, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo <at> gnu.org> a écrit :
>Hi,
>
>Mikhail Tsykalov <tsymsh <at> gmail.com> skribis:
>
>> When running biber the following error appears:
>>
>> ERROR - Error: Found biblatex control file version 3.5, expected
>> version 3.4.
>> This means that your biber (2.11) and biblatex (3.12) versions are
>> incompatible.
>> See compat matrix in biblatex or biber PDF documentation.
>
>Not long ago, I did this:
>
>  commit 40fd909e3ddee2c46a27a4fe92ed49d3e7ffb413
>  Author: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
>  Date:   Fri Apr 24 16:17:38 2020 +0200
>
>      gnu: biber: Downgrade to 2.11.
>
>Biber 2.12 is incompatible with biblatex 3.11, which is what's
>currently
>packaged.  This is a followup to
>41a010875ba4108e666f11fc111cf5bb5dcf5464.
>
>      * gnu/packages/tex.scm (biber): Downgrade to 2.11.
>
>However, it seems that biblatex has been updated in the meantime.
>
>Could you check whether reverting the commit above fixes the problem
>for
>you?
>
>Thanks,
>Ludo’.

We should add a comment to the biber package toqwarn about this. Wdyt?
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From: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
To: Julien Lepiller <julien <at> lepiller.eu>
Cc: 41400 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Mikhail Tsykalov <tsymsh <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#41400: Current biber version is incompatible with biblatex
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 15:55:41 +0200

Julien Lepiller <julien <at> lepiller.eu> skribis:

> We should add a comment to the biber package toqwarn about this. Wdyt?

Yes, definitely.

Ludo’.
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From: Mikhail Tsykalov <tsymsh <at> gmail.com>
To: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#41400: Current biber version is incompatible with biblatex
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 17:09:29 +0300

Hi,

On 29.05.2020 18:38, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Not long ago, I did this:
>
>    commit 40fd909e3ddee2c46a27a4fe92ed49d3e7ffb413
>    Author: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
>    Date:   Fri Apr 24 16:17:38 2020 +0200
>
>        gnu: biber: Downgrade to 2.11.
>
>        Biber 2.12 is incompatible with biblatex 3.11, which is what's currently
>        packaged.  This is a followup to 41a010875ba4108e666f11fc111cf5bb5dcf5464.
>
>        * gnu/packages/tex.scm (biber): Downgrade to 2.11.
>
> However, it seems that biblatex has been updated in the meantime.
>
> Could you check whether reverting the commit above fixes the problem for
> you?
>
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.

Yes, reverting 40fd909e3ddee2c46a27a4fe92ed49d3e7ffb413 seems to fix the 
problem.

I have no idea why biber's test suite doesn't check that biblatex 
version is compatible.

Can we add guix-specific check, so the package would fail to build if 
similar thing happens?
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From: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
To: Mikhail Tsykalov <tsymsh <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 41400-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41400: Current biber version is incompatible with biblatex
Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 19:02:13 +0200

Hi,

Mikhail Tsykalov <tsymsh <at> gmail.com> skribis:

> On 29.05.2020 18:38, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Not long ago, I did this:
>>
>>    commit 40fd909e3ddee2c46a27a4fe92ed49d3e7ffb413
>>    Author: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
>>    Date:   Fri Apr 24 16:17:38 2020 +0200
>>
>>        gnu: biber: Downgrade to 2.11.
>>
>>        Biber 2.12 is incompatible with biblatex 3.11, which is what's currently
>>        packaged.  This is a followup to 41a010875ba4108e666f11fc111cf5bb5dcf5464.
>>
>>        * gnu/packages/tex.scm (biber): Downgrade to 2.11.
>>
>> However, it seems that biblatex has been updated in the meantime.
>>
>> Could you check whether reverting the commit above fixes the problem for
>> you?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ludo’.
>
> Yes, reverting 40fd909e3ddee2c46a27a4fe92ed49d3e7ffb413 seems to fix
> the problem.

OK, I’ll push the revert shortly.

> I have no idea why biber's test suite doesn't check that biblatex
> version is compatible.
>
> Can we add guix-specific check, so the package would fail to build if
> similar thing happens?

I don’t know why Biber’s test suite doesn’t do the relevant check, but I
don’t think we can it by ourselves.  There’s a biber/biblatex
compatibility matrix in the biblatex documentation:

  http://ctan.math.washington.edu/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/biblatex/doc/biblatex.pdf

(Linked from <https://ctan.org/pkg/biblatex>.)  I guess we just need to
double-check that when updating.  I’ve added a comment in the code.

Thanks!

Ludo’.
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