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Full text available.Received: (at 70590) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 May 2024 07:21:21 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 09 03:21:21 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53586 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1s4y5h-000766-8u for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 May 2024 03:21:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43340) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1s4y5f-000760-PY for 70590 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 May 2024 03:21:20 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1s4y5A-0006YL-8y; Thu, 09 May 2024 03:20:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=qk+gZVExeUmwGoaVnGnGTBGpOKQNHdN293IfsZPNCHQ=; b=hYti3nLTsnrFgX8ZGiwb HHmEbhBsTdyHAw//Mao3ShQeGVqIvvhetXjygI2LPIBAb00qPryq0aMLDYCMD3nweTBtAGbBUWzeU e0oBSUPwCZAQWIqwU3mxZ6BaxFGLVPOwX321abvxIIncxICjZ1dJjiD2nd/WO72v3zY26V2bO54aN xXqdVrfNSTUambtUurRCfIEtlkRX329p/U80a2HLmbOWN6BV3yd9LiRfxpr78lzkuXGv5p1wtOUqk u8I1PhMZ+TDya/zhldsB5qoUQ1/1yiflU7Wsxy+g2uVnXjxbcdEygr3J/H/eozem0qKjfuROeg9nb 8YqB41kxeoETOw==; Date: Thu, 09 May 2024 10:20:47 +0300 Message-Id: <8634qr8n8w.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: lists.gnu.org@HIDDEN In-Reply-To: <86cyqcz8gi.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 26 Apr 2024 14:09:33 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#70590: 29.3; PGTK emacs doesn't automatically run on the terminal when it has no graphical display References: <35f08044-3e01-bdb3-02c1-4ecd6f91e225@HIDDEN> <86cyqcz8gi.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70590 Cc: 70590 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 70590 wontfix close 70590 thanks > Cc: 70590 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 14:09:33 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> > > > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 11:25:40 +0100 (BST) > > From: Peter Oliver <lists.gnu.org@HIDDEN> > > > > Traditionally, if you ran Emacs from a terminal, with no graphical display available, it used that terminal for its display. With the pure GTK build of Emacs, this only works if you explicitly specify the –-no-window-system option. Otherwise: > > > > - - - - - - - > > $ env DISPLAY= WAYLAND_DISPLAY= emacs -Q > > > > (emacs:13745): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:12:58.299: cannot open display: > > $ echo $? > > 1 > > - - - - - - - > > See bug#63555. We've decided not to fix this, given the royal mess > that GTK developers left behind, as described in the discussion of > that bug. The NEWS file in the Emacs 29 distribution says, inter > alia, about the PGTK build: > > Note that, unlike the X build of Emacs, the PGTK build cannot > automatically switch to text-mode interface (thus emulating '-nw') if > it cannot determine the default display; it will instead complain and > ask you to invoke it with the explicit '-nw' option. > > Sorry. No further comments in 2 weeks, so I'm now closing this bug as wontfix.
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Full text available.Received: (at 70590) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2024 11:10:09 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 26 07:10:08 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34076 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1s0JSv-00079z-1n for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 07:10:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59874) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1s0JSq-00077x-ST for 70590 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 07:10:02 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1s0JSS-0002vb-Jq; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 07:09:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=iBrzyWLTbUZZo5NUp9pqWowGbbLGqP2ky+7lWXOyCXc=; b=IiDm3OpU2zVomWUtUYGu zuLsskal+jycu1CLl7nyqiT2ABHbJOM9PntLl2ntnUpgjo8eIVfwgDXZ2SstkxmwKIdoKgE6sZ04M gHEVZkhQDuBXlRHQE+rwB85I7rAZEXsQfff2pFI2zTcYQQEzN0cthoKRrOba3VP/+R0DkAObCw2hJ JzDEfHi5MjdYYiGfGPGgMagYudCuluBa7DduH1BHLf5tzdhMzZYVkslrPYdrgEih9t+3EWdlk0L97 NRqrcVQPrbyunmunwh84Ofh2DgJlE/4NalEdiz4sWk66FlyRQOdnw9goeGROPePk4tbWassFM3orb qoguysRrDRHSbQ==; Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 14:09:33 +0300 Message-Id: <86cyqcz8gi.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Peter Oliver <lists.gnu.org@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <35f08044-3e01-bdb3-02c1-4ecd6f91e225@HIDDEN> (message from Peter Oliver on Fri, 26 Apr 2024 11:25:40 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: bug#70590: 29.3; PGTK emacs doesn't automatically run on the terminal when it has no graphical display References: <35f08044-3e01-bdb3-02c1-4ecd6f91e225@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70590 Cc: 70590 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 11:25:40 +0100 (BST) > From: Peter Oliver <lists.gnu.org@HIDDEN> > > Traditionally, if you ran Emacs from a terminal, with no graphical display available, it used that terminal for its display. With the pure GTK build of Emacs, this only works if you explicitly specify the –-no-window-system option. Otherwise: > > - - - - - - - > $ env DISPLAY= WAYLAND_DISPLAY= emacs -Q > > (emacs:13745): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:12:58.299: cannot open display: > $ echo $? > 1 > - - - - - - - See bug#63555. We've decided not to fix this, given the royal mess that GTK developers left behind, as described in the discussion of that bug. The NEWS file in the Emacs 29 distribution says, inter alia, about the PGTK build: Note that, unlike the X build of Emacs, the PGTK build cannot automatically switch to text-mode interface (thus emulating '-nw') if it cannot determine the default display; it will instead complain and ask you to invoke it with the explicit '-nw' option. Sorry.
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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1463811583-937090916-1714127140=:4429 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Traditionally, if you ran Emacs from a terminal, with no graphical display available, it used that terminal for its display. With the pure GTK build of Emacs, this only works if you explicitly specify the –-no-window-system option. Otherwise: - - - - - - - $ env DISPLAY= WAYLAND_DISPLAY= emacs -Q (emacs:13745): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:12:58.299: cannot open display: $ echo $? 1 - - - - - - - In GNU Emacs 29.3 (build 1, x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-04-26 built on cabaf4098b994f6da8ef60f3f6652faa System Description: Fedora Linux 40 (Workstation Edition) Configured using: 'configure --build=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --host=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix= --disable-dependency-tracking --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=/etc --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --libdir=/usr/lib64 --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var --runstatedir=/run --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-cairo --with-dbus --with-gif --with-gpm=no --with-harfbuzz --with-jpeg --with-json --with-modules --with-native-compilation=aot --with-pgtk --with-png --with-rsvg --with-sqlite3 --with-tiff --with-tree-sitter --with-webp --with-xpm --with-xwidgets build_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu host_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu CC=gcc 'CFLAGS=-DMAIL_USE_LOCKF -O2 -flto=auto -ffat-lto-objects -fexceptions -g -grecord-gcc-switches -pipe -Wall -Werror=format-security -Wp,-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 -Wp,-D_GLIBCXX_ASSERTIONS -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 -fstack-protector-strong -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-annobin-cc1 -m64 -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mno-omit-leaf-frame-pointer ' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro PKG_CONFIG_PATH=:/usr/lib64/pkgconfig:/usr/share/pkgconfig CXX=g++ 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -flto=auto -ffat-lto-objects -fexceptions -g -grecord-gcc-switches -pipe -Wall -Werror=format-security -Wp,-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 -Wp,-D_GLIBCXX_ASSERTIONS -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 -fstack-protector-strong -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-annobin-cc1 -m64 -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mno-omit-leaf-frame-pointer '' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix -- Peter Oliver ---1463811583-937090916-1714127140=:4429--
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