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charset="UTF-8" in version c81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 of guix, gcc-toolchain depends gcc: ``` $ DEFAULT_CHANNELS=/tmp/default_channels.scm $ echo "%default-channels" > $DEFAULT_CHANNELS # I force guix to use only %default-channels here $ guix time-machine --commit=c81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 -C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- search gcc-toolchain guile: warning: failed to install locale name: gcc-toolchain version: 9.3.0 outputs: out debug static systems: x86_64-linux i686-linux dependencies: binutils@HIDDEN gcc@HIDDEN glibc@HIDDEN ld-wrapper@0 ``` However, I can't find gcc package in this version of guix ``` $ guix time-machine --commit=c81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 -C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- search gcc # no found gcc # guix install failure message confirm that gcc doesn't exist in commit c81457 $ guix time-machine --commit=c81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 -C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- install gcc -p ~/opt/python-dev_3_7 guile: warning: failed to install locale guix install: error: gcc: unknown package ``` in commit c81457, how gcc-toolchain can depends a package who doesn't exists? --000000000000132d8e05ed76f3b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">in version c81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 of gui= x, gcc-toolchain depends gcc:<br>```<br>$ DEFAULT_CHANNELS=3D/tmp/default_c= hannels.scm<br>$ echo "%default-channels" > $DEFAULT_CHANNELS<= br># I force guix to use only %default-channels here<br>$ guix time-machine= --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 =C2=A0-C $DEFAULT_CHAN= NELS -- search gcc-toolchain<br>guile: warning: failed to install locale<br= >name: gcc-toolchain<br>version: 9.3.0<br>outputs: out debug static<br>syst= ems: x86_64-linux i686-linux<br>dependencies: binutils@HIDDEN gcc@HIDDEN glibc= @2.29 ld-wrapper@0<br>```<br><br><br>However, I can't find gcc package = in this version of guix<br>```<br>$ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a588= 3ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 =C2=A0-C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- search gcc<br>= # no found gcc<br><br># guix install failure message confirm that gcc doesn= 't exist in commit c81457<br>$ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883= ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 -C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- install gcc -p ~/opt/= python-dev_3_7<br>guile: warning: failed to install locale<br>guix install:= error: gcc: unknown package<br>```<br><br>in commit c81457, how gcc-toolch= ain can depends a package who doesn't exists?</div> --000000000000132d8e05ed76f3b6--
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Resent-From: Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 06:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.59278.B59278.166849362821187 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59278 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: bbb ee <blasforr@HIDDEN>, 59278 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 59278-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B59278.166849362821187 (code B ref 59278); Tue, 15 Nov 2022 06:28:01 +0000 Received: (at 59278) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2022 06:27:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oupPY-0005Vf-DR for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 01:27:08 -0500 Received: from lepiller.eu ([89.234.186.109]:40246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <julien@HIDDEN>) id 1oupPW-0005VW-Vd for 59278 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 01:27:07 -0500 Received: from lepiller.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e9211aa0; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 06:27:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=lepiller.eu; h=date:from :to:subject:in-reply-to:references:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=dkim; bh=PzGw+bGvkKvX Lgl/nzmhqMvv2ZU9OGksIYfCrkcbhqY=; b=PstAt6c1J3DVE8A18mYXOheaKu4c J7evMpoBFTXqSsweHk+EGoNKbssdf7ogojxZSCofs2j0SIV4C+KoeOQjMxM/IgCa 9lymIFpmEIOr+XZXZD7pXPqTrFKzWQSa+0mwPqXFSBWqSPDb5r280alKV2g2GQX+ f225mAVmzfJwxE/odwvCUXjo0XKRp/VmPdCXsUqjRw74Nv+Fa0uTAv/VHXqYyg6J THm6SqXdrZBsVHK0L4sMCDlkU9iLd6DP5LKXIqpceDPbf7AhdoxQMAgZGvUoPBVV VoThrJRSgk1jcevPM2Yr2GYxFgnoWI9xfRmzkhgk0/nThZkw66bjhe56TQ== Received: by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id e94341ab (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 15 Nov 2022 06:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 07:26:25 +0100 From: Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <CALNLCmUJOyvfjELjW-YcF+hDgwxPH1SoEcZm2hMOAtmt6vr36g@HIDDEN> References: <CALNLCmUJOyvfjELjW-YcF+hDgwxPH1SoEcZm2hMOAtmt6vr36g@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <83ED95D5-441E-43FB-9BBD-93338342E07A@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----Y9A32FCVZVOSIJY4MAZZX3W5KXYQCG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------Y9A32FCVZVOSIJY4MAZZX3W5KXYQCG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, This is not a bug=2E The gcc package exists, but is hidden from CLI on pur= pose because you shouldn't install it and use it directly=2E You should use= gcc-toolchain instead=2E Le 15 novembre 2022 00:53:32 GMT+01:00, bbb ee <blasforr@gmail=2Ecom> a = =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: >in version c81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 of guix, gcc-toolchai= n >depends gcc: >``` >$ DEFAULT_CHANNELS=3D/tmp/default_channels=2Escm >$ echo "%default-channels" > $DEFAULT_CHANNELS ># I force guix to use only %default-channels here >$ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 = -C >$DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- search gcc-toolchain >guile: warning: failed to install locale >name: gcc-toolchain >version: 9=2E3=2E0 >outputs: out debug static >systems: x86_64-linux i686-linux >dependencies: binutils@2=2E32 gcc@9=2E3=2E0 glibc@2=2E29 ld-wrapper@0 >``` > > >However, I can't find gcc package in this version of guix >``` >$ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 = -C >$DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- search gcc ># no found gcc > ># guix install failure message confirm that gcc doesn't exist in commit >c81457 >$ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 -= C >$DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- install gcc -p ~/opt/python-dev_3_7 >guile: warning: failed to install locale >guix install: error: gcc: unknown package >``` > >in commit c81457, how gcc-toolchain can depends a package who doesn't >exists? ------Y9A32FCVZVOSIJY4MAZZX3W5KXYQCG Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body>Hi,<br><br>This is not a bug=2E The gcc package ex= ists, but is hidden from CLI on purpose because you shouldn't install it an= d use it directly=2E You should use gcc-toolchain instead=2E<br><br><div cl= ass=3D"gmail_quote">Le 15 novembre 2022 00:53:32 GMT+01:00, bbb ee <blas= forr@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s= tyle=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 2= 04); padding-left: 1ex;"> <div dir=3D"ltr">in version c81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 of gu= ix, gcc-toolchain depends gcc:<br>```<br>$ DEFAULT_CHANNELS=3D/tmp/default_= channels=2Escm<br>$ echo "%default-channels" > $DEFAULT_CHANNELS<br># I = force guix to use only %default-channels here<br>$ guix time-machine --comm= it=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 -C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS --= search gcc-toolchain<br>guile: warning: failed to install locale<br>name: = gcc-toolchain<br>version: 9=2E3=2E0<br>outputs: out debug static<br>systems= : x86_64-linux i686-linux<br>dependencies: binutils@2=2E32 gcc@9=2E3=2E0 gl= ibc@2=2E29 ld-wrapper@0<br>```<br><br><br>However, I can't find gcc package= in this version of guix<br>```<br>$ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a58= 83ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 -C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- search gcc<br= ># no found gcc<br><br># guix install failure message confirm that gcc does= n't exist in commit c81457<br>$ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea4= 3950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 -C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- install gcc -p ~/opt/pyt= hon-dev_3_7<br>guile: warning: failed to install locale<br>guix install: er= ror: gcc: unknown package<br>```<br><br>in commit c81457, how gcc-toolchain= can depends a package who doesn't exists?</div> </blockquote></div></body></html> ------Y9A32FCVZVOSIJY4MAZZX3W5KXYQCG--
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The gcc package exists, but is hidden from CLI on > purpose because you shouldn't install it and use it directly. You should > use gcc-toolchain instead. > > Le 15 novembre 2022 00:53:32 GMT+01:00, bbb ee <blasforr@HIDDEN> a > =C3=A9crit : >> >> in version c81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 of guix, >> gcc-toolchain depends gcc: >> ``` >> $ DEFAULT_CHANNELS=3D/tmp/default_channels.scm >> $ echo "%default-channels" > $DEFAULT_CHANNELS >> # I force guix to use only %default-channels here >> $ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 = -C >> $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- search gcc-toolchain >> guile: warning: failed to install locale >> name: gcc-toolchain >> version: 9.3.0 >> outputs: out debug static >> systems: x86_64-linux i686-linux >> dependencies: binutils@HIDDEN gcc@HIDDEN glibc@HIDDEN ld-wrapper@0 >> ``` >> >> >> However, I can't find gcc package in this version of guix >> ``` >> $ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 = -C >> $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- search gcc >> # no found gcc >> >> # guix install failure message confirm that gcc doesn't exist in commit >> c81457 >> $ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 = -C >> $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- install gcc -p ~/opt/python-dev_3_7 >> guile: warning: failed to install locale >> guix install: error: gcc: unknown package >> ``` >> >> in commit c81457, how gcc-toolchain can depends a package who doesn't >> exists? >> > --000000000000e8d86c05ed7fd60a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks, I close the issue<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail= _quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Le=C2=A0mar. 15 nov. 2022 =C3= =A0=C2=A007:27, Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@HIDDEN">j= ulien@HIDDEN</a>> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=3D= "gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2= 04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi,<br><br>This is not a bug. The gcc pa= ckage exists, but is hidden from CLI on purpose because you shouldn't i= nstall it and use it directly. You should use gcc-toolchain instead.<br><br= ><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Le 15 novembre 2022 00:53:32 GMT+01:00, bbb ee = <<a href=3D"mailto:blasforr@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">blasforr@gmail.= com</a>> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m= argin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left= :1ex"> <div dir=3D"ltr">in version c81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 of gui= x, gcc-toolchain depends gcc:<br>```<br>$ DEFAULT_CHANNELS=3D/tmp/default_c= hannels.scm<br>$ echo "%default-channels" > $DEFAULT_CHANNELS<= br># I force guix to use only %default-channels here<br>$ guix time-machine= --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 =C2=A0-C $DEFAULT_CHAN= NELS -- search gcc-toolchain<br>guile: warning: failed to install locale<br= >name: gcc-toolchain<br>version: 9.3.0<br>outputs: out debug static<br>syst= ems: x86_64-linux i686-linux<br>dependencies: binutils@HIDDEN gcc@HIDDEN glibc= @2.29 ld-wrapper@0<br>```<br><br><br>However, I can't find gcc package = in this version of guix<br>```<br>$ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a588= 3ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 =C2=A0-C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- search gcc<br>= # no found gcc<br><br># guix install failure message confirm that gcc doesn= 't exist in commit c81457<br>$ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883= ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 -C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- install gcc -p ~/opt/= python-dev_3_7<br>guile: warning: failed to install locale<br>guix install:= error: gcc: unknown package<br>```<br><br>in commit c81457, how gcc-toolch= ain can depends a package who doesn't exists?</div> </blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div> --000000000000e8d86c05ed7fd60a--
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Content preview: Hi, On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 at 00:53, bbb ee wrote: > in commit c81457, how gcc-toolchain can depends a package who doesn't > exists? 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The package exists, it is =E2=80=99hidden=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 it means not a= ccessible at the CLI level. The =E2=80=99inherit=E2=80=99 copies, so gcc-11 is also hidden, for= instance. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (define-public gcc-4.7 [...] (hidden-package (package (name "gcc") (version "4.7.4") (define-public gcc-4.8 (package (inherit gcc-4.7) (version "4.8.5") [...] (define-public gcc-11 (package (inherit gcc-8) (version "11.3.0") --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The package =E2=80=99gcc=E2=80=99 by itself is not barely useful because yo= u also need linker etc. Well, you usually need a complete toolchain, named gcc-toolchain. ;-) See manual: <https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#The-GCC-toolcha= in> So this is not a bug and I miss how what could be improved. Closing? Cheers, simon
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If we really want to improve something, I think that could be to give a more rigorous specification of the guix command: in `guix search --help`, the documentation could be "Search for no hidden packages matching REGEXPS." in https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Invoking-guix-package.html#Invokin= g-guix-package, in the specification of the option -s : "-s regexp List the available packages whose name, synopsis, or description matches regexp " What exactly means "available" ? For example, available means no hidden guix package. And in Le mar. 15 nov. 2022 =C3=A0 15:54, zimoun <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> a =C3= =A9crit : > Hi, > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 at 00:53, bbb ee <blasforr@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > in commit c81457, how gcc-toolchain can depends a package who doesn't > > exists? > > The package exists, it is =E2=80=99hidden=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 it means not= accessible at the CLI > level. The =E2=80=99inherit=E2=80=99 copies, so gcc-11 is also hidden, f= or instance. > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > (define-public gcc-4.7 > [...] > (hidden-package > (package > (name "gcc") > (version "4.7.4") > > (define-public gcc-4.8 > (package (inherit gcc-4.7) > (version "4.8.5") > > [...] > > (define-public gcc-11 > (package > (inherit gcc-8) > (version "11.3.0") > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > The package =E2=80=99gcc=E2=80=99 by itself is not barely useful because = you also need > linker etc. Well, you usually need a complete toolchain, named > gcc-toolchain. ;-) > > See manual: < > https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#The-GCC-toolchain> > > > So this is not a bug and I miss how what could be improved. Closing? > > Cheers, > simon > --000000000000a6c9e305ed893afd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>It is just a little confusing for ne= wcomers to guix. If we really want to improve something, I think that could= be to give a more rigorous specification of the guix command: <br></div><d= iv><br></div><div>in `guix search --help`, the documentation could be "= ;Search for no hidden packages matching REGEXPS."</div><div><br></div>= <div>in <a href=3D"https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Invoking-guix-p= ackage.html#Invoking-guix-package">https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node= /Invoking-guix-package.html#Invoking-guix-package</a>, in the specification= of the option -s :<br></div><div>"<dt><samp>-s <var>regexp</var></sam= p></dt><dd><span id=3D"gmail-guix_002dsearch"></span><span id=3D"gmail-inde= x-searching-for-packages"></span> <p>List the available packages whose name, synopsis, or description matches <var>regexp</var> </p></dd> "<br></div><div>What exactly means=C2=A0 "available" ?=C2=A0= For example, available means no hidden guix package.</div><div><br></div><= div>And in <br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_attr">Le=C2=A0mar. 15 nov. 2022 =C3=A0=C2=A015:54, zimoun &l= t;<a href=3D"mailto:zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN">zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN</a>&= gt; a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D= "margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le= ft:1ex">Hi,<br> <br> On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 at 00:53, bbb ee <<a href=3D"mailto:blasforr@HIDDEN= om" target=3D"_blank">blasforr@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > in commit c81457, how gcc-toolchain can depends a package who doesn= 9;t<br> > exists?<br> <br> The package exists, it is =E2=80=99hidden=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 it means not a= ccessible at the CLI<br> level.=C2=A0 The =E2=80=99inherit=E2=80=99 copies, so gcc-11 is also hidden= , for instance.<br> <br> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---<br> (define-public gcc-4.7<br> [...]<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (hidden-package<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(package<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(name "gcc")<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(version "4.7.4")<br> <br> (define-public gcc-4.8<br> =C2=A0 (package (inherit gcc-4.7)<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (version "4.8.5")<br> <br> [...]<br> <br> (define-public gcc-11<br> =C2=A0 (package<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(inherit gcc-8)<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(version "11.3.0")<br> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---<br> <br> The package =E2=80=99gcc=E2=80=99 by itself is not barely useful because yo= u also need<br> linker etc. Well, you usually need a complete toolchain, named<br> gcc-toolchain. ;-)<br> <br> See manual: <<a href=3D"https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#T= he-GCC-toolchain" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://guix.gnu.org= /manual/devel/en/guix.html#The-GCC-toolchain</a>><br> <br> <br> So this is not a bug and I miss how what could be improved.=C2=A0 Closing?<= br> <br> Cheers,<br> simon<br> </blockquote></div></div> --000000000000a6c9e305ed893afd--
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Le mar. 15 nov. 2022 =C3=A0 15:54, zimoun <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> a =C3= =A9crit : > Hi, > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 at 00:53, bbb ee <blasforr@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > in commit c81457, how gcc-toolchain can depends a package who doesn't > > exists? > > The package exists, it is =E2=80=99hidden=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 it means not= accessible at the CLI > level. The =E2=80=99inherit=E2=80=99 copies, so gcc-11 is also hidden, f= or instance. > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > (define-public gcc-4.7 > [...] > (hidden-package > (package > (name "gcc") > (version "4.7.4") > > (define-public gcc-4.8 > (package (inherit gcc-4.7) > (version "4.8.5") > > [...] > > (define-public gcc-11 > (package > (inherit gcc-8) > (version "11.3.0") > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > The package =E2=80=99gcc=E2=80=99 by itself is not barely useful because = you also need > linker etc. Well, you usually need a complete toolchain, named > gcc-toolchain. ;-) > > See manual: < > https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#The-GCC-toolchain> > > > So this is not a bug and I miss how what could be improved. Closing? > > Cheers, > simon > --0000000000006648c105ed898b4e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">In the documentation, when it says "guix search"= search matching package, if users don't find a package defined in .scm= (hidden or no), users can consider it is a bug, because that doesn't m= atch the behavior described in the specification (here, the manual and &quo= t;guix search --help").<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d= ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Le=C2=A0mar. 15 nov. 2022 =C3=A0=C2=A015:54= , zimoun <<a href=3D"mailto:zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN">zimon.toutoune@gma= il.com</a>> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot= e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)= ;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br> <br> On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 at 00:53, bbb ee <<a href=3D"mailto:blasforr@HIDDEN= om" target=3D"_blank">blasforr@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > in commit c81457, how gcc-toolchain can depends a package who doesn= 9;t<br> > exists?<br> <br> The package exists, it is =E2=80=99hidden=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 it means not a= ccessible at the CLI<br> level.=C2=A0 The =E2=80=99inherit=E2=80=99 copies, so gcc-11 is also hidden= , for instance.<br> <br> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---<br> (define-public gcc-4.7<br> [...]<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (hidden-package<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(package<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(name "gcc")<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(version "4.7.4")<br> <br> (define-public gcc-4.8<br> =C2=A0 (package (inherit gcc-4.7)<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (version "4.8.5")<br> <br> [...]<br> <br> (define-public gcc-11<br> =C2=A0 (package<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(inherit gcc-8)<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(version "11.3.0")<br> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---<br> <br> The package =E2=80=99gcc=E2=80=99 by itself is not barely useful because yo= u also need<br> linker etc. Well, you usually need a complete toolchain, named<br> gcc-toolchain. ;-)<br> <br> See manual: <<a href=3D"https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#T= he-GCC-toolchain" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://guix.gnu.org= /manual/devel/en/guix.html#The-GCC-toolchain</a>><br> <br> <br> So this is not a bug and I miss how what could be improved.=C2=A0 Closing?<= br> <br> Cheers,<br> simon<br> </blockquote></div> --0000000000006648c105ed898b4e--
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If we really want to > improve something, I think that could be to give a more rigorous > specification of the guix command: I agree that the manual does not speak about the concept of =E2=80=99hidden-package=E2=80=99, if I read correctly. A note would be wel= come, IMHO. However, the commit you are referring is from 2020: c81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 Author: Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> AuthorDate: Fri May 8 16:34:58 2020 +0200 Commit: Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> CommitDate: Fri May 8 16:34:58 2020 +0200 gnu: gcc-toolchain: Add 10.1.0. * gnu/packages/commencement.scm (gcc-toolchain-10): New variable. 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+) gnu/packages/commencement.scm | 3 +++ and many things have been improved since. ;-) For instance, using 00ff6f7 (from ~Oct 2022), it reads, --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix search gcc | recsel -p name,version | head -30 name: gcc version: 12.2.0 name: gcc version: 11.3.0 name: gcc version: 10.3.0 name: gcc version: 9.5.0 name: gcc version: 8.5.0 name: gcc version: 7.5.0 name: gcc version: 2.95.3 name: gcc-toolchain version: 12.2.0 name: gcc-toolchain version: 11.3.0 name: gcc-toolchain version: 10.3.0 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Wait, contrary to what I said, the packages are not hidden when they should be! For example, gcc@4m @5 and @6 are not displayed but @7 is. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix show gcc@6 guix show: error: gcc@6: package not found $ guix show gcc@7 name: gcc version: 7.5.0 outputs: + lib: shared libraries + debug: debug information + out: everything else systems: x86_64-linux i686-linux dependencies: gmp@HIDDEN isl@HIDDEN libelf@HIDDEN libstdc++-headers@HIDDEN mpc= @1.2.1 mpfr@HIDDEN perl@HIDDEN texinfo@HIDDEN zlib@HIDDEN location: gnu/packages/gcc.scm:601:2 homepage: https://gcc.gnu.org/ license: GPL 3+ synopsis: GNU Compiler Collection=20=20 description: GCC is the GNU Compiler Collection. It provides compiler fron= t-ends for several languages, including C, C++, Objective-C, Fortran, Ada, = and + Go. It also includes runtime support libraries for these languages. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- It is because the =E2=80=99properties=E2=80=99 field of gcc@7 is rewritten, --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (define-public gcc-7 (package (inherit gcc-6) (version "7.5.0") [...] (properties `((compiler-cpu-architectures ("aarch64" ,@%gcc-7.5-aarch64-micro-architectures) ("armhf" ,@%gcc-7.5-armhf-micro-architectures) ("x86_64" ,@%gcc-7.5-x86_64-micro-architectures)))))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- and thus, it looses =E2=80=99hidden=E2=80=99, as shown here: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix repl GNU Guile 3.0.8 Copyright (C) 1995-2021 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Guile comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `,show w'. This program is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `,show c' for details. Enter `,help' for help. scheme@(guix-user)> ,use(gnu packages gcc) scheme@(guix-user)> (package-properties gcc-6) $1 =3D ((hidden? . #t) (gcc-libc . #f)) scheme@(guix-user)> (package-properties gcc-7) $2 =3D ((compiler-cpu-architectures ("aarch64" "armv8-a" "armv8.1-a" "armv8= .2-a" "armv8.3-a") ("armhf" "armv7" "armv7-a" "armv7-m" "armv7-r" "armv7e-m= " "armv7ve" "armv8-a" "armv8-a+crc" "armv8.1-a" "armv8.1-a+crc" "armv8-m.ba= se" "armv8-m.main" "armv8-m.main+dsp" "iwmmxt" "iwmmxt2") ("x86_64" "core2"= "nehalem" "westmere" "sandybridge" "ivybridge" "haswell" "broadwell" "skyl= ake" "bonnell" "silvermont" "knl" "skylake-avx512" "k8" "k8-sse3" "barcelon= a" "bdver1" "bdver2" "bdver3" "bdver4" "znver1" "btver1" "btver2" "geode"))) scheme@(guix-user)> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Thanks, there is indeed a bug. ;-) Back to the initial report, what could be improved is the display of the field =E2=80=99dependencies=E2=80=99; distinguishing regular packages to hi= dden ones. And maybe instead of a plain error =E2=80=9Cpackage not found=E2=80=9D, the= command =E2=80=9Cguix show=E2=80=9D could error which =E2=80=9Cnon installable pack= age=E2=80=9D or something like that. Cheers, simon
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[194.254.61.46]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u10-20020a7bc04a000000b003f508777e33sm190572wmc.3.2023.05.15.10.58.37 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 15 May 2023 10:58:37 -0700 (PDT) From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> References: <CALNLCmUJOyvfjELjW-YcF+hDgwxPH1SoEcZm2hMOAtmt6vr36g@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 19:55:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <CALNLCmUJOyvfjELjW-YcF+hDgwxPH1SoEcZm2hMOAtmt6vr36g@HIDDEN> (bbb ee's message of "Tue, 15 Nov 2022 00:53:32 +0100") Message-ID: <86pm7132eo.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 at 00:53, bbb ee <blasforr@HIDDEN> wrote: > in version c81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 of guix, gcc-toolchai= n depends gcc: > ``` > $ DEFAULT_CHANNELS=3D/tmp/default_channels.scm > $ echo "%default-channels" > $DEFAULT_CHANNELS > # I force guix to use only %default-channels here > $ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 = -C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- search gcc-toolchain > guile: warning: failed to install locale > name: gcc-toolchain > version: 9.3.0 > outputs: out debug static > systems: x86_64-linux i686-linux > dependencies: binutils@HIDDEN gcc@HIDDEN glibc@HIDDEN ld-wrapper@0 > ``` > > However, I can't find gcc package in this version of guix > ``` > $ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 = -C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- search gcc > # no found gcc > > # guix install failure message confirm that gcc doesn't exist in commit c= 81457 > $ guix time-machine --commit=3Dc81457a5883ea43950eb2ecdcbb58a5b144bcd11 -= C $DEFAULT_CHANNELS -- install gcc -p > ~/opt/python-dev_3_7 > guile: warning: failed to install locale > guix install: error: gcc: unknown package > ``` > > in commit c81457, how gcc-toolchain can depends a package who doesn't exi= sts? Aside a minor point about documenting =E2=80=99hidden-packages=E2=80=99 alt= hough =E2=80=99hidden?=E2=80=99 is mentioned in section =E2=80=9C9.3 Defining Pac= kage Variants=E2=80=9C [1], the main issue is fixed by e1bf3c6b5a06b6dbbe4f5a8692ea638a0ce43511. Moreover, please note the section =E2=80=9C8.4 The GCC toolchain=E2=80=9D [= 2] in the manual explaining the confusion. Closing? 1: https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#Defining-Package-Variants 2: https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#The-GCC-toolchain Cheers, simon
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