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[82.181.99.163]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i2sm1927229lfd.43.2016.02.20.00.50.11 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:50:12 -0800 (PST) From: Adrian Robert <adrian.b.robert@HIDDEN> X-Google-Original-From: Adrian Robert <Adrian.B.Robert@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <CF4807F2-5FAB-4A4B-AA0D-9271F94E2E40@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 10:50:10 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The visual bell on OS X used to be a large square popped up in the = middle of the screen, which was easy to see. Now it is a very small warning icon, = and I often miss it. Would it be possible to make the warning icon the same = size as the square was, or if the icon can only be rendered at that size, = provide an option for the old square? 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Now it is a very small warning icon, and I > often miss it. Would it be possible to make the warning icon the same size as > the square was, or if the icon can only be rendered at that size, provide an > option for the old square? The old code didn't work on El Capitan -- there were some visual artifacts left behind afterwards. Since I didn't have access to a machine running El Capitan, I replaced the code with something that work on all OS versions. It might be possible to increase the size -- however, the symbol is a built-in image so there is a risk that an enlarged version will be pixelated. I'm open to other solutions to this. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to work on it myself anymore. -- Anders --001a1143f39419c5ab052c3329c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi!<br><br>> The visual bell on OS X used to be a large= square popped up in the middle of<br>> the screen, which was easy to se= e.=C2=A0 Now it is a very small warning icon, and I<br>> often miss it.= =C2=A0 Would it be possible to make the warning icon the same size as<br>&g= t; the square was, or if the icon can only be rendered at that size, provid= e an<br>> option for the old square?<br><br>The old code didn't work= on El Capitan -- there were some visual artifacts left behind afterwards.<= div><br></div><div>Since I didn't have access to a machine running El C= apitan, I replaced the code with something that work on all OS versions.</d= iv><div><br></div><div>It might be possible to increase the size -- however= , the symbol is a built-in image so there is a risk that an enlarged versio= n will be pixelated.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm open to other solutio= ns to this. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to work on it myself a= nymore.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -- Anders</div><div><br></di= v></div> --001a1143f39419c5ab052c3329c6--
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#22746: 25.0.90; OS X: Visual bell hard to see Resent-From: Xu Xin <railwaycat@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 18:25:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.22746.B22746.145599268517385 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22746 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Anders Lindgren <andlind@HIDDEN> Cc: adrian.b.robert@HIDDEN, 22746 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 22746-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B22746.145599268517385 (code B ref 22746); Sat, 20 Feb 2016 18:25:04 +0000 Received: (at 22746) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2016 18:24:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35566 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1aXCCz-0004WL-2k for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:24:45 -0500 Received: from mail-wm0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:38290) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <railwaycat@HIDDEN>) id 1aX9J4-0000B1-HI for 22746 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 10:18:51 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f46.google.com with SMTP id a4so107851284wme.1 for <22746 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 07:18:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PsIqAN1ThaEO5RHdnXxqEB7j7BCuX8hJhZu7B/C1c8k=; b=s1ohuuxcA2FpVU/OhoQDTFQ8iWkP3rkdujS9TPt6D9FkxmGvLXfq4j5Gs7DA5hm/FO 4Ms/ARaJcqWYr3ra0riv13iLBw7Kx65nf5487eNDyc6viFvOka5vDIRNAedJMMdQMNyo xqzYSGd+ehtCbMHPoYnIEhiKs9c4J/OSjzll8+wI+6l2Fb0mLhnBbsAs4Shifs87i4UC PCR0QgWzp61R9yjE+0n4JJDqraTLsj1n0t5myfnhz69M4wk6QMq9PoAQpFKQqW0uIQQ0 4i9tTEIuD16mrJH75WodcYrzd2ilgmv5M7hAQeI+Dgf4xQOAtHVSqid6AtuVwdnm7RZc nU9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PsIqAN1ThaEO5RHdnXxqEB7j7BCuX8hJhZu7B/C1c8k=; b=Ntl8W6sGX9X+O+K4hLjvuvoir5iGYnCvPWfl0WrYZNQ1HwvRjVogDIOBNyvtdvfVhO guS6TTpdhIMOIIxbUs446nPmPOcYhLVxDeOrIqpIO6rohXZixCN3wG/0hDMsqJ85jZ96 RIgnrdx0vIUoibSOYiwVG3XMeexvvSnUWHpvwVkevL1jDuLe0i0sJtGHvxUgVCe5I6eT 90Kb1ezZk5RpE4UXBlzowcp/K4NqjgaYt45VALhZMxZkOn1sMk7RyLQw2JwoycSa5Gav Mq/D2uz0qJQcW8d1e5daFq84bfAibnwnV3amL+jG7CswgtxaeBqx0XNqrpjNgf4GgdOc m3uQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORw0SnQDYY/Hte7JSLdIWghx5FtQiUFk+nQOLcssXiFzI+2+UX9UfkOIYSRwGzhi4qlzXMo4++9mDy06A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.21.14 with SMTP id 14mr2922902wmv.39.1455981524972; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 07:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.88.73 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 07:18:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <CABr8ebY6c9FYo=kr83EUR0ACDOFpS5ug5Xp5PdTQ3SVy5FaWRA@HIDDEN> References: <CF4807F2-5FAB-4A4B-AA0D-9271F94E2E40@HIDDEN> <CABr8ebY6c9FYo=kr83EUR0ACDOFpS5ug5Xp5PdTQ3SVy5FaWRA@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 10:18:44 -0500 Message-ID: <CAOtMdqnDbVW-EvSOtDHkZQ=zg_iJUNqP40tvmfxueNQJy1Gfwg@HIDDEN> From: Xu Xin <railwaycat@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:24:44 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Anders Lindgren <andlind@HIDDEN> wrote: > Hi! > >> The visual bell on OS X used to be a large square popped up in the middle >> of >> the screen, which was easy to see. Now it is a very small warning icon, >> and I >> often miss it. Would it be possible to make the warning icon the same >> size as >> the square was, or if the icon can only be rendered at that size, provide >> an >> option for the old square? > > The old code didn't work on El Capitan -- there were some visual artifacts > left behind afterwards. > > Since I didn't have access to a machine running El Capitan, I replaced the > code with something that work on all OS versions. > > It might be possible to increase the size -- however, the symbol is a > built-in image so there is a risk that an enlarged version will be > pixelated. > > I'm open to other solutions to this. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to > work on it myself anymore. > > -- Anders > Emacs mac port has the option to flash the top line and mini buffer as visible bell, can we introduce this feature to Nextstep port? - Xin
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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x123sm21561490pfb.54.2016.05.12.11.45.29 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 12 May 2016 11:45:30 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" <johnw@HIDDEN> Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2B4364B4642; Wed, 11 May 2016 11:20:04 -0700 (PDT) References: <CF4807F2-5FAB-4A4B-AA0D-9271F94E2E40@HIDDEN> <CABr8ebY6c9FYo=kr83EUR0ACDOFpS5ug5Xp5PdTQ3SVy5FaWRA@HIDDEN> <CAOtMdqnDbVW-EvSOtDHkZQ=zg_iJUNqP40tvmfxueNQJy1Gfwg@HIDDEN> <m2d1r4wodb.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2wpn47vxf.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 11:20:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: <m2wpn47vxf.fsf@HIDDEN> (Alan Third's message of "Sun, 08 May 2016 10:15:08 +0100") Message-ID: <m24ma48njg.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.93 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) >>>>> Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes: > What would be the ideal visible bell? The top and bottom lines flashing or > flashing the entire window, or do people like the warning icon? Personally I'd prefer top and bottom lines. Every better: give me a defcustom to decide between icon, top/bottom, whole screen, or some alerting function (which in future would allow for connecting with alert.el). -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#22746: 25.0.90; OS X: Visual bell hard to see Resent-From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 19:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.22746.B22746.146308064932165 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22746 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN>, Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> Cc: Xu Xin <railwaycat@HIDDEN>, adrian.b.robert@HIDDEN, Anders Lindgren <andlind@HIDDEN>, 22746 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 22746-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B22746.146308064932165 (code B ref 22746); Thu, 12 May 2016 19:18:01 +0000 Received: (at 22746) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2016 19:17:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49330 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1b0w6z-0008Mj-3L for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2016 15:17:29 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:21242) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1b0w6w-0008MU-1A for 22746 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2016 15:17:26 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u4CJHJhq013812 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 12 May 2016 19:17:19 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4CJHJcd002379 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 12 May 2016 19:17:19 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4CJHG3j004421; Thu, 12 May 2016 19:17:17 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <7b3980b2-41bc-48e7-ae23-ea28151f2954@default> Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 12:17:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> References: <CF4807F2-5FAB-4A4B-AA0D-9271F94E2E40@HIDDEN> <CABr8ebY6c9FYo=kr83EUR0ACDOFpS5ug5Xp5PdTQ3SVy5FaWRA@HIDDEN> <CAOtMdqnDbVW-EvSOtDHkZQ=zg_iJUNqP40tvmfxueNQJy1Gfwg@HIDDEN> <m2d1r4wodb.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2wpn47vxf.fsf@HIDDEN> <m24ma48njg.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <m24ma48njg.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) > > What would be the ideal visible bell? The top and bottom lines flashing= or > > flashing the entire window, or do people like the warning icon? >=20 > Personally I'd prefer top and bottom lines. Every better: give me a > defcustom to decide between icon, top/bottom, whole screen, or some > alerting function (which in future would allow for connecting with alert.= el). +1. And not just for OS X. It could also incorporate what echo-bell.el does, or similar, as one of the option values. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/echo-bell.el
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[2001:8b0:3f8:8129:cde6:1540:92a4:44b8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id xz3sm1838819wjb.10.2016.05.13.08.41.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 13 May 2016 08:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 16:41:54 +0100 From: Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <20160513154154.GA53701@HIDDEN> References: <CF4807F2-5FAB-4A4B-AA0D-9271F94E2E40@HIDDEN> <CABr8ebY6c9FYo=kr83EUR0ACDOFpS5ug5Xp5PdTQ3SVy5FaWRA@HIDDEN> <CAOtMdqnDbVW-EvSOtDHkZQ=zg_iJUNqP40tvmfxueNQJy1Gfwg@HIDDEN> <m2d1r4wodb.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2wpn47vxf.fsf@HIDDEN> <m24ma48njg.fsf@HIDDEN> <7b3980b2-41bc-48e7-ae23-ea28151f2954@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7b3980b2-41bc-48e7-ae23-ea28151f2954@default> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:17:15PM -0700, Drew Adams wrote: > > > What would be the ideal visible bell? The top and bottom lines flashing or > > > flashing the entire window, or do people like the warning icon? > > > > Personally I'd prefer top and bottom lines. Every better: give me a > > defcustom to decide between icon, top/bottom, whole screen, or some > > alerting function (which in future would allow for connecting with alert.el). > > +1. And not just for OS X. > > It could also incorporate what echo-bell.el does, or similar, > as one of the option values. Am I right in thinking that this would just require exposing the bell functions to Emacs lisp, and then providing a simple way to set ring-bell-function? Or have I misunderstood? -- Alan Third
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#22746: 25.0.90; OS X: Visual bell hard to see Resent-From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 15:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.22746.B22746.146315435523976 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22746 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> Cc: Xu Xin <railwaycat@HIDDEN>, John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN>, adrian.b.robert@HIDDEN, Anders Lindgren <andlind@HIDDEN>, 22746 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 22746-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B22746.146315435523976 (code B ref 22746); Fri, 13 May 2016 15:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 22746) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2016 15:45:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50117 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1b1FHn-0006Ee-2s for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 11:45:55 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:43052) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1b1FHl-0006ER-8K for 22746 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 11:45:53 -0400 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u4DFjkOn012107 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 13 May 2016 15:45:46 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4DFjjJr023110 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 13 May 2016 15:45:46 GMT Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u4DFjigl003352; Fri, 13 May 2016 15:45:45 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3dfcbc7a-8680-485c-9e37-570c9e7a3191@default> Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 08:45:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> References: <CF4807F2-5FAB-4A4B-AA0D-9271F94E2E40@HIDDEN> <CABr8ebY6c9FYo=kr83EUR0ACDOFpS5ug5Xp5PdTQ3SVy5FaWRA@HIDDEN> <CAOtMdqnDbVW-EvSOtDHkZQ=zg_iJUNqP40tvmfxueNQJy1Gfwg@HIDDEN> <m2d1r4wodb.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2wpn47vxf.fsf@HIDDEN> <m24ma48njg.fsf@HIDDEN> <7b3980b2-41bc-48e7-ae23-ea28151f2954@default> <20160513154154.GA53701@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <20160513154154.GA53701@HIDDEN> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) > > > > What would be the ideal visible bell? The top and bottom lines > flashing or > > > > flashing the entire window, or do people like the warning icon? > > > > > > Personally I'd prefer top and bottom lines. Every better: give me a > > > defcustom to decide between icon, top/bottom, whole screen, or some > > > alerting function (which in future would allow for connecting with > alert.el). > > > > +1. And not just for OS X. > > > > It could also incorporate what echo-bell.el does, or similar, > > as one of the option values. >=20 > Am I right in thinking that this would just require exposing the bell > functions to Emacs lisp, and then providing a simple way to set > ring-bell-function? Or have I misunderstood? Are you asking me? I only suggested perhaps incorporating something like what echo-bell does, as one of the possible visual-bell behaviors for the defcustom. There already is an easy way to set `ring-bell-function', so I'm really not sure what you are asking.
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[2001:8b0:3f8:8129:cde6:1540:92a4:44b8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o129sm3889892wmb.17.2016.05.13.09.03.13 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 13 May 2016 09:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 17:03:11 +0100 From: Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <20160513160311.GB53701@HIDDEN> References: <CF4807F2-5FAB-4A4B-AA0D-9271F94E2E40@HIDDEN> <CABr8ebY6c9FYo=kr83EUR0ACDOFpS5ug5Xp5PdTQ3SVy5FaWRA@HIDDEN> <CAOtMdqnDbVW-EvSOtDHkZQ=zg_iJUNqP40tvmfxueNQJy1Gfwg@HIDDEN> <m2d1r4wodb.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2wpn47vxf.fsf@HIDDEN> <m24ma48njg.fsf@HIDDEN> <7b3980b2-41bc-48e7-ae23-ea28151f2954@default> <20160513154154.GA53701@HIDDEN> <3dfcbc7a-8680-485c-9e37-570c9e7a3191@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3dfcbc7a-8680-485c-9e37-570c9e7a3191@default> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 08:45:43AM -0700, Drew Adams wrote: > > > > > What would be the ideal visible bell? The top and bottom lines > > flashing or > > > > > flashing the entire window, or do people like the warning icon? > > > > > > > > Personally I'd prefer top and bottom lines. Every better: give me a > > > > defcustom to decide between icon, top/bottom, whole screen, or some > > > > alerting function (which in future would allow for connecting with > > alert.el). > > > > > > +1. And not just for OS X. > > > > > > It could also incorporate what echo-bell.el does, or similar, > > > as one of the option values. > > > > Am I right in thinking that this would just require exposing the bell > > functions to Emacs lisp, and then providing a simple way to set > > ring-bell-function? Or have I misunderstood? > > Are you asking me? Sorry, I probably should have responded directly to John. > There already is an easy way to set `ring-bell-function', so I'm really > not sure what you are asking. This is why I'm not sure why John's asking for a way to tie in an alerting function. It's already there. -- Alan Third
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It's already there. Sorry, I just didn't know about it. :) -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#22746: 25.0.90; OS X: Visual bell hard to see Resent-From: Toon Claes <toon@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 22:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.22746.B22746.147017526425299 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22746 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> Cc: Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN>, 22746 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Xu Xin <railwaycat@HIDDEN>, adrian.b.robert@HIDDEN, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN>, Anders Lindgren <andlind@HIDDEN> Received: via spool by 22746-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B22746.147017526425299 (code B ref 22746); Tue, 02 Aug 2016 22:02:01 +0000 Received: (at 22746) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Aug 2016 22:01:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53894 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1bUhkF-0006Zy-QP for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 18:01:04 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:39119) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <toon@HIDDEN>) id 1bUhkC-0006ZP-3I for 22746 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 18:01:02 -0400 Received: from mfilter17-d.gandi.net (mfilter17-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.145]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86F2A80C6; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 00:00:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter17-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.195]) by mfilter17-d.gandi.net (mfilter17-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DFXTE3A-zFPP; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 00:00:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 87.103.59.222 Received: from MacToonPro-2.local (222.59.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt [87.103.59.222]) (Authenticated sender: toon@HIDDEN) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3653DA80C2; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 00:00:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Toon Claes <toon@HIDDEN> References: <CF4807F2-5FAB-4A4B-AA0D-9271F94E2E40@HIDDEN> <CABr8ebY6c9FYo=kr83EUR0ACDOFpS5ug5Xp5PdTQ3SVy5FaWRA@HIDDEN> <CAOtMdqnDbVW-EvSOtDHkZQ=zg_iJUNqP40tvmfxueNQJy1Gfwg@HIDDEN> <m2d1r4wodb.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2wpn47vxf.fsf@HIDDEN> <m24ma48njg.fsf@HIDDEN> <7b3980b2-41bc-48e7-ae23-ea28151f2954@default> <20160513154154.GA53701@HIDDEN> <3dfcbc7a-8680-485c-9e37-570c9e7a3191@default> <20160513160311.GB53701@HIDDEN> <m2futlewux.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 00:00:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <m2futlewux.fsf@HIDDEN> (John Wiegley's message of "Fri, 13 May 2016 09:39:02 -0700") Message-ID: <m2d1lq25m3.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> writes: > Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes: > >>> There already is an easy way to set `ring-bell-function', so I'm really not >>> sure what you are asking. > > Sorry, I just didn't know about it. :) So, do we keep the current behavior and rely on third-party packages like echo-bell.el to customize the behavior? Or, if we should chose to customize built-in the behavior, maybe a few more settings should be considered: - Duration: Compared to echo-bell-mode, the default warning sign is shown way too long. A configurable duration would be nice. - Image: Maybe people also would like to specify the image shown as visible bell (e.g. Pikachu: https://twitter.com/ErgoEmacs/status/759546738306748416/photo/1 ) TBH, I suggest to keep the current behavior and let user to set `ring-bell-function' if they like something different. Regards, Toon
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